Re-Blog: Surviving A Nuclear War


(Originally posted 8/29/2017 on Read With The Gringa)

With Trump and Kim Jong Un rattling their sabers, many minds are pondering what happens in the event of nuclear war. Although the gringa thinks both knuckleheads are simply posturing, trying to establish who is the big dog on the porch, their silly pissing contest also has me thinking. 


What kind of plans are in place? Will the US government try to save most of the American people or is it every man for himself? Please do tell, government by the people and for the people, is there a plan for these here people?


According to de-classified CIA documents that date back as early as the Carter administration, along with presidential archives, there is good news. Nuclear war survival plans do, indeed exist. The big questions is, “The survival of WHOM?”


Early plans were developed to survive a nuclear holocaust with the old Soviet Union. Although the general public believes a tense but effective truce is in place between the US and Russia based on what is commonly called the Mutually Assured Destruction doctrine, the gringa says, “Um, not so fast.”


The US government doesn’t really have any faith in such a doctrine. That’s why, since the 1950s, preparations have always been underway and updated for the the country to survive an all-out nuclear war. Where the government is concerned, the needs of the rabble are low on the priority list. Topping their list of problems to solve are:

  1. Can the presidency survive a nuclear war?
  2. If so, what would it do after a nuclear holocaust?
  3. How is the identification of the Commander-In-Chief verified and confirmed for the public?
  4. Who is responsible for official identification?
  5. How will a surviving president fulfill the 3 main duties of office: lead the government, perform as head of state, and command the armed forces?

Yeah, sorry folks, not a single word about the survival of the US populace. Although one can infer that surely there is still a plan to save us all. Otherwise, what point would there be to maintain a presidency? Who would there be to govern and rebuild the radiated ravaged nation?

To address the 5 predicaments of a post-apocalyptic presidency, President Carter came up with the bright idea of Presidential Directive 58. He issued this directive near the end of his term. Ronald Reagan added his own flourish to the directive in 1983. It is this amended version which would be in effect should Trump drag us into nuclear war with North Korea. 

Now, the gringa would like to inform the dear reader that key to survival is preparedness. Although we Americans would like to think that our government has our best interest at heart, the lack of drills, preparedness training, community evaluation and basic instruction and education on surviving a nuclear holocaust testifies to a different reality.

There are all sorts of crises that will erupt in the event of nuclear disaster. And as far as the gringa can tell, the public’s lack of any training and education makes it completely reliant on agencies like FEMA or the local National Guardsmen posted in our local communities.

While each federal agency is fortunate enough to have a fully-stocked, state-of-the-art underground facility to escape to, where do us regular folk go? The best advice I’ve heard so far is to tape up the windows and don’t use conditioner when you wash your hair. Really? Pretty sure the last thing the gringa will be interested in is using radiation contaminated tap water all over her body in the shower. But I digress.

The truth is, despite living in a country that touts the benefits of an armed populace to preserve freedom, that same well-armed populace has never been tapped by the government to create a credible and functional civil defense program. Do we then assume that the US government’s lack of attention to the welfare of civilians is a Darwinian approach? Do they just leave us to duck and cover, the survivors hunkering down, and at the end of this survival of the fittest exercise the new American emerges? The deserving American? The American who had true grit? That sounds about right.

If nuclear war happens, there is an expectation that martial law will be declared. Resources will be under government control and re-distributed as they see fit. Does that mean resources will be strategically deployed to areas the government considers to be the most likely to benefit? Will a capitalist attitude affect redistribution decisions? Will they consider return-on-investment more important than equitable distribution? Could some communities get nothing at all because, strategically speaking, they are just not worth depleting precious, limited resources?

These are the nasty little questions that will always be asked. That is exactly why politicians have no intention of bringing up such a nasty little subject. And that is just one more reason the nation does not pursue a goal of organizing a credible civil defense program involving actual civilians. When the government keeps secrets and makes secret plans, there is only one reason for doing so. The public will not like any of it.  

Government survival plans have relocation sites scattered across the nation at about 60 sites, mostly concentrated in southern and east coast states so as to be near DC. The dear reader can bet their bottom dollar that those are the areas that will receive the surest and largest portion of re-distributed resources. If you happen to live on the west coast you better have some really good walking shoes. Because, chances are, if you want to eat you will have to head east.

In the end, the US government doesn’t look at Americans as people when it comes to nuclear holocaust survival plans. They just look at us as numbers. And the magic number is that the government expects only about 80% of us to survive. Doesn’t sound too bad unless you happen to be among the unfortunate 20%.  And the stockpile of resources is not designated so much for the civilian population’s continued survival but more so that the government can rebuild its own stability and strength.

That also means that, in order to rebuild critical infrastructure like communications and transportation, survivors may also find themselves pressed into service and labor. The gringa’s advice is that if you value your freedom as an American, start organizing within your own community. 

Don’t count on the government to show up with the cavalry and pass out bottled water and diapers. Muster your real American spirit and make a plan to do it all on your own, along with the help of your neighbors. Otherwise you might have to become an indentured servant for clean water and a bunk. In other words, a post-apocalypse American slave. 

The video below has some nuclear war survival tips. If you want to skip the bluster and politics and get straight to the tips, start at the 3:25 mark.

Source: 

Image Credit: A Sheep No More

Video Credit: The Economist

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Incan Stars


The caveman has Incan blood, a Peruvian transplant to the United States. It is then only natural that the gringa is curious about Peruvian contributions to space related science and technology. After all, considering some of the interesting theories surrounding Nazca, the Incans may have been involved in space travel long before the rest of the world was enjoying  gas lighting.

Peru has an active science industry that has developed and successfully launched nano-satellites. They were developed by the Pontificia Universidad Catolica del Peru, Universidad Alas Peruanas and Universidad Nacional de Ingenieria. Aside from the academic community, the Peruvian government, in collaboration with the government of France, will be launching a satellite this year of its own production. Individual professional groups are also participating in desert experiments related to the future exploration of Mars.

The majority of space related technology is developed by Peru’s universities with the cooperation of the Peruvian Space Agency, The National Commission for Aerospace Research and Development (CONIDA).  Launches of satellites have been successful in cooperation with NASA as well as ROCOSMOS. CONIDA recently invested over $200 million dollars in a French produced satellite, “Astrosat-300”, more commonly called Airbus. This is the most advanced satellite in Latin America. Peruvian students who were trained in France manage the operations and image capturing.

Peru desires to increase awareness of space among its population. It enthusiastically supports programs that involve active participation of Peruvian youth. It hopes its nation’s international involvement in developing space capabilities will grow. CONIDA’s official decree states it’s intent is to “[P]romote and develop peaceful, research and work aimed at the country’s progress in space”.

One way CONIDA works toward its mission is to develop graduate programs for Peru’s universities as well as create “School Workshop on Space Activities” programs that are designed to motivate interest among Peru’s youth in their final two years of high school. These courses introduce subjects such as data collection from satellites, satellite observation of earth, digital processing of satellite images and how to use supporting software. Specialized courses about geology, agriculture, forestry and mineral exploration are also offered.

CONIDA’s Technical Department of Space Technology Development is actively engaged in the research and development of rockets and probes. They are on the fast track to develop payload delivery systems and become a vital actor in the vigorous international space travel community. “Punta Lobos”, a CONIDA science base south of Lima, houses much of what this department develops. It has been visited by delegates of the Korea Aerospace Research Institute (KARI) regarding future collaborative projects.

Peru has many interesting and critical areas where satellites are beneficial for the country. They have a landslide monitoring system, flood hazard monitors, tectonic movement assessment, measurements of volcanic flows, as well as seasonal precipitation monitoring of rainfall.

Peru considers space observation for its nation as critical for national security as well as to address many geological issues for the benefit of all of Peru’s people. I anticipate that they will serve the memory of their ancestors well. I believe that my caveman will proudly see the day when the land of his birth boasts about their own astronauts aboard the ISS, arriving there in their own spacecraft. The gringa just wonders if it will be of gold and shaped like a sleeping llama?

 

Source & Photo Credit:  http://www.conida.gob.pe/

 

 

POWs, MIAs, “We Will Never Forget” Part V, K-M


In continuation of my blog post of Friday, August, 8, 2015, I will continue to list the names of the servicemen still unaccounted for from the Vietnam and Korean conflicts. The gringa will kindly remind dear readers that clicking on incident date, name, branch of service or side note will take the reader directly to a page regarding that serviceman that is linked with the website www.pownetwork.org. So, in honor of those POWs and MIAs considered with the November 9, 2000, immigration policy known as the “Bring Them Home Alive Act”, the following men are not forgotten:

14-Jun-69   KAHLER HAROLD    USAF

29-Apr-75   KAJI ANDREW T.    CIV   Left Saigon 08/76

29-Apr-75   KALSSEN JAMES   CIV   Left Saigon 04/76

09-Aug-69   KANE BRUCE E.   USMC   

12-Sep-67   KANE RICHARD RAYMOND   USMC

20-May-67   KEEFE DOUGLAS ONEIL   USMC

15-Nov-66   KEIPER JOHN C.   USMC

21-Apr-66   KELLER JACK E.   USN

06-Aug-67   KEMMERER DONALD R.   USAF

12-Jan-67   KEMP CLAYTON CHARLES   USN

17-Aug-66   KEMP FREDDIE   ARMY

22-Dec-69   KENNEDY JAMES E.   ARMY

01-Nov-68   KENNEY HARRY J.   USN

20-Dec-68   KENT ROBERT DUANE   USMC

21-Jan-67   KERNS ARTHUR W.   ARMY   Not on Official DIA list – possible remains returned

26-Mar-68   KERR ERNEST C. JR.   USMC

13-Jun-66   KERR EVERETT O.   USAF

22-Aug-67   KERR JOHN C.   USAF

09-Jul-72   KETCHIE SCOTT D.   USMC

20-Jan-68   KETTERER JAMES A.   USAF

06-Feb-67   KIBBEY RICHARD A.   USAF

10-Feb-66   KIEFEL ERNEST P. JR.   USAF

29-Apr-75   KIEN CUONG TRIEU   CIV   Left Saigon 08/76

29-Apr-75   KIEN NAM BAO   CIV

29-Apr-75   KIEN NGIEP TRIEU   CIV   Left Saigon 08/76

26-Aug-67   KILCULLEN THOMAS MICHAEL   USAF

30-Jun-67   KILLEN JOHN D. III   USMC

18-Jun-72   KILPATRICK LARRY RONALD   USN

25-Dec-68   KING CHARLES D.   USAF

14-May-66   KING DONALD L.   USAF

29-Apr-75   KING JOHN S.   CIV   Left Saigon 04/76

04-May-68   KING PAUL C. JR.   ARMY

03-Oct-67   KING RONALD RUNYAN   USAF

01-Sep-68   KINKADE WILLIAM L.   USAF

15-Jan-71   KINSMAN GERALD F.   ARMY

14-Jul-66   KIPINA MARSHALL F.   ARMY

11-Mar-68   KIRK HERBERT A.   USAF   Not on Official DIA list – TDY CIV/LOCKHEED

01-Jan-66   KIRKSEY ROBERT L.   ARMY

29-Apr-75   KISTNER MITCHELL   CIV   Left Saigon 08/75

11-Jun-67   KLEMM DONALD MARTIN   USAF

17-Sep-65   KLENDA DEAN ALBERT   USAF

04-Nov-69   KLIMO JAMES R.   ARMY   Remains of all other crew recovered

02-Nov-66   KLINE ROBERT E.   USAF

06-Apr-70   KLINGNER MICHAEL LEE   USAF

14-Nov-70   KLUGG JOSEPH R.   USN

14-Mar-66   KLUTE KARL EDWIN   USAF

21-Oct-68   KNABB KENNETH K.   USN

02-Nov-67   KNAPP FREDRIC W.   USN

24-Apr-67   KNAPP HERMAN L.   USAF

09-Apr-70   KNIGHT LARRY C.   USN

07-Oct-66   KNIGHT LARRY DALE   USAF

19-May-67   KNIGHT ROY A. JR.   USAF

22-Sep-66   KNOCHEL CHARLES A.   USN

22-Mar-71   KNUTSEN DONALD P.   ARMY

05-Feb-70   KOBASHIGAWA TOM Y.   ARMY

14-Dec-66   KOENIG EDWIN LEE   USN

02-Oct-69   KOHLER DELVIN L.   USN

12-Mar-68   KOLLMANN GLENN E.   USN

16-Apr-69   KONYU WILLIAM M.   ARMY

11-Jun-67   KOOI JAMES W.   USMC   AC crash and explode, no surv obs

25-Dec-67   KOONCE TERRY T.   USAF   (Photo)

27-Oct-72   KOSIN BEATRICE   CIV   Not on Official DIA list, reported DIC (Photo)

27-Jul-65   KOSKO WALTER   USAF

02-Oct-69   KOSLOSKY HOWARD M.   USN

31-Oct-67   KOTT STEPHEN J.   USMC   Remains Recovered 07/17/84 – Family does not accept ID

30-Mar-75   KOWLES ALEXANDER G.   CIV   Left Saigon 10/75

05-Jun-72   KRANER DAVIS STANLEY   USN

16-Mar-68   KRAUSMAN EDWARD L.   USMC

01-Apr-66   KRECH MELVIN T.   USN

29-Apr-75   KRISH CLAUDIA   CIV   Left Saigon 07/75

17-Jan-67   KROGMAN ALVA R.   USAF

25-Oct-67   KROMMENHOEK JEFFREY M.   USN

11-Feb-69   KROSKE HAROLD W. JR.   ARMY

27-Apr-71   KRUPA FREDERICK   ARMY

03-Nov-67   KRUSI PETER H.   USN

31-Jan-67   KUBLEY ROY R.   USAF

17-Jan-69   KUHLMAN ROBERT JOHN JR.   USMC

06-APR-70   KUSAKA AKIRA   CIV   Not on Official Lists

08-Nov-67   KUSICK JOSEPH G.   ARMY

06-Apr-68   KUSTIGIAN MICHAEL T.   USN   Listed as UA in 1973

18-Aug-71   KUYKENDALL WILLIE C.   ARMY

 30-Nov-68    LA BOHN GARY R.    ARMY   Remains Returned 03/08/89 – Id’d 02/08/90 Questionable

 05-Sep-65   LA GRAND WILLIAM J.   ARMY

08-May-65   LA HAYE JAMES D.   USN

19-Sep-68   LA VOO JOHN ALLEN   USMC

31-Jan-68   LACEY RICHARD J.   ARMY

24-Aug-68   LADEWIG MELVIN E.   USAF

06-Apr-66   LAFAYETTE JOHN W.   ARMY

29-Apr-75   LAFFIE GEORGE   CIV

29-Apr-75   LAFFIE LINA MARLINE   CIV

17-Jun-70   LAKER CARL J.   ARMY   Head wound, search neg

13-Jun-66   LAMBTON BENNIE R.   USN

03-Jan-68   LANCASTER KENNETH R.   ARMY

23-Aug-67   LANE CHARLES   USAF

23-May-68   LANE GLEN O.   ARMY

04-Jan-69   LANE MITCHELL S.   USAF

01-Mar-68   LANNOM RICHARD C.   USN

05-Sep-67   LAPORTE MICHAEL L.   USN

30-Mar-69   LATIMER CLARENCE A.   ARMY

20-Feb-68   LAUREANO-LOPEZ ISMAEL   ARMY

29-Apr-75   LAURIE JAMES   CIV   Expelled from Saigon 08/75

26-Oct-71   LAUTZENHEISER MICHAEL   ARMY   4 sets remains found at crash site, not subj

05-Oct-68   LAWRENCE GREGORY P.   USAF

29-Jul-66   LAWS DELMER L.   ARMY

09-Apr-68   LAWSON KARL W.   ARMY

05-Nov-69   LE FEVER DOUGLAS P.   USAF

08-May-72   LEAVER JOHN M. JR.   USN

19-Jun-64   LEDBETTER THOMAS I.   ARMY

16-Feb-72   LEE ALBERT EUGENE   USN

28-Jan-70   LEESER LEONARD C.   USAF

13-Apr-72   LEET DAVID LAVERETT   USMC

18-Jun-67   LEMMONS WILLIAM E.   ARMY

25-Apr-71   LEMON JEFFREY C.   USAF

15-Feb-71   LEONARD MARVIN M.   ARMY

02-Oct-69   LEONARD ROBERT B.   USN

20-Aug-72   LESTER RODERICK B.   USN

27-Feb-67   LETCHWORTH EDWARD N.   USN   Blown off Carrier deck

25-Oct-66   LEVAN ALVIN L.   USN

02-Apr-72   LEVIS CHARLES A.   USAF

19-Oct-66   LEWANDOWSKI LEONARD J. JR.   USMC

17-May-67   LEWIS CHARLIE G.   ARMY

27-Feb-71   LEWIS LARRY G.   USN

04-Oct-67   LILLUND WILLIAM A.   USAF

09-Apr-71   LILLY CARROLL BAXTER   USAF

17-Mar-71   LILLY LAWRENCE E.   ARMY

06-Jan-73   LINDAHL JOHN C.   USN

20-Aug-68   LINDBLOOM CHARLES DAVID   USN

29-Jun-65   LINDSEY MARVIN NELSON   USAF

02-Jan-70   LINDSTROM RONNIE G.   USAF

29-Apr-75   LINH DAM   CIV   Left Saigon 08/76

21-Apr-68   LINK ROBERT C.   ARMY

09-Dec-67   LIRA JOSE T.   ARMY

23-Apr-70   LITTLE DANNY L.   ARMY

02-Oct-69   LIVINGSTON RICHARD A.   USN

02-Dec-65   LOGAN JACOB DRUMMOND   USN

26-Mar-68   LOMAX RICHARD E.   ARMY

20-Dec-69   LONG CARL EDWIN   USMC

18-Oct-66   LONG JOHN H.   USAF

08-Jul-66   LONGANECKER RONALD LEE   USMC

19-Apr-68   LORD ARTHUR JAMES   ARMY

01-Mar-69   LOVEGREN DAVID E.   ARMY

18-Jun-65   LOWRY TYRRELL G.   USAF

23-Apr-70   LUCKI AUBIN E.   USAF   (Photo)

22-Dec-65   LUKENBACH MAX D.   USN

01-Feb-66   LUKER RUSSELL B.   USMC

20-Dec-66   LUM DAVID ANTHONY   USAF

10-Mar-69   LUNA CARTER P.   USAF

29-Apr-75   LUNDGREEN KIM DUNG   CIV   Left Saigon 12/75

29-Apr-75   LUNDGREEN KIM THO   CIV  

25-Jul-67   LUNSFORD HERBERT L.   USAF

29-Apr-75   LUSK ANDRE   CIV   Left Saigon with fake passport 08/75

23-Jan-69   LUSTER ROBERT L.   ARMY   Remains Recovered 01/27/69 – Id Disputed

10-May-71   LUTTRELL JAMES M.   ARMY

27-May-65   LYNN DOYLE W.   USN   Hit by AA in target area

05-FEB-68   LYNN HOMER M.   USAF   Not on Official DIA list

22-Mar-68   LYON DONOVAN L.   USAF

05-Feb-70   LYON JAMES M.   ARMY   Reported DIC 02/06/70 – mercy killingLeft Saigon 12/75

28-Mar-68    MACCANN HENRY E.   USAF

21-Dec-72   MACDONALD GEORGE D.   USAF    Remains Returned 02/21/85 – Id Rescinded by family (Photo)

21-Apr-68   MACKEDANZ LYLE E.   ARMY

02-Jan-66   MACLAUGHLIN DONALD C.   USN

21-Apr-78   MACNAMARA LEN   CIV   Held in Phnom Phenh jail until 11/78

20-May-67   MADDOX NOTLEY GWYNN   USAF

18-Jan-67   MADSEN MARLOW E.   USN

03-Jan-71   MAGEE PATRICK J.   ARMY

23-Mar-61   MAGEE RALPH WAYNE   USAF

04-Apr-65   MAGNUSSON JAMES A. JR.   USAF

06-Jul-68   MAHONEY THOMAS P. III   USMC

10-Aug-65   MAILHES LAWRENCE SCOTT   USN   Remains not found in search of acft

04-May-66   MALONE JIMMY M.   ARMY

21-Apr-67   MANGINO THOMAS A.   ARMY   Disappeared while on sampan

03-Nov-70   MANGUS ARLIE R.   ARMY

22-Oct-65   MANN ROBERT LEE   USAF

27-Mar-72   MANOR JAMES   USAF

24-May-69   MANSKE CHARLES J.  USAF

25-Jun-66   MARIK CHARLES W.   USN

30-May-70   MARK KIT T.   CIV

04-Mar-71   MARKER MICHAEL W.   ARMY

22-Jan-74   MARKHAM JAMES M.   CIV   Returned from Visit 12/74

15-May-75   MARSHALL DANNY G.   USMC   Mayaguez incident loss 05/15/75

18-Jun-65   MARSHALL JAMES A.   USAF

05-Sep-65   MARSHALL RICHARD C.   USAF

04-Apr-67   MARTIN DAVID EARL   USN

18-Apr-73   MARTIN DOUGLAS K.   USAF   Charred bodies found at crash site (Photo) Remains Buried 4/18/99

20-Sep-65   MARTIN DUANE W.   USAF   Reported killed by natives

23-Mar-75   MARTIN EARL   CIV   Released from Saigon 07/75

03-Nov-70   MARTIN JERRY D.   ARMY

16-Oct-70   MARTIN JOHN B. II   USN

20-Nov-67   MARTIN JOHN M.   USAF

01-May-68   MARTIN RICHARD D.   ARMY

03-Jun-66   MARTIN RUSSELL D.   USAF   Wreckage sighted, no trace of crew

27-Dec-67   MARTIN SAMMY A.   USAF

11-Nov-67   MARTINEZ-MERCADO EDWIN J.   ARMY

14-Feb-67   MARVIN ROBERT C.   USN

02-May-69   MASCARI PHILLIP L.   USAF

17-Oct-68   MASON JAMES P.   ARMY

01-Oct-65   MASSUCCI MARTIN J.   USAF

13-Oct-68   MASTERSON MICHAEL J.   USAF

13-May-69   MASUDA ROBERT S.   ARMY   Possibly thrown into well

16-Apr-72   MATEJA ALAN P.   USAF

15-Feb-66   MAUTERER OSCAR   USAF

10-Oct-69   MAXWELL CALVIN W.   ARMY

02-Mar-69   MAY MICHAEL F.   ARMY

17-Oct-65   MAYER RODERICK L.   USN   Egress reports died of severe wounds from ejection

24-Nov-67   MAYERCIK RONALD M.   USAF

17-Aug-68   MAYHEW WILLIAM J.   USN   Listed as remains recovered 07/72 but returned alive 03/14/73

09-Nov-67   MAYSEY LARRY W.   USAF

23-Dec-70   MCANDREWS MICHAEL W.   ARMY

10-Nov-66   MCATEER THOMAS J.   USN

22-Oct-66   MCBRIDE EARL PAUL   USN

30-Dec-68   MCCANTS LELAND S. III   ARMY   Reported drowned in river crossing

14-Nov-65   MCCLELLAND PAUL T. JR.   USAF

24-Nov-63   MCCLURE CLAUDE DONALD   ARMY   Released in Cambodia 11/28/65

30-Apr-74   MCCOMBS PHILLIP A.   CIV   Released 05/74

05-Feb-66   MCCONNAUGHHAY DAN DAILY   USN

24-Sep-68   MCCONNELL JERRY   ARMY

06-Oct-72   MCCORMICK CARL O.   USAF

15-Dec-70   MCCOY MERIL O JR.   USN

26-Apr-68   MCDANIEL JOHN LEWIS   USAF

04-Oct-67   MCDANIEL MORRIS L. JR.   USAF

31-May-66   MCDONALD EMMETT R.   USAF

01-Jun-75   MCDONALD HERMAN   CIV   Left Saigon 08/76

03-May-72   MCDONALD JOSEPH W.   USMC

31-Dec-64   MCDONALD KURT C.   USAF

25-Mar-71   MCDONNEL R.D.   ARMY   Reported KIA by grenade in ambush

06-Mar-69  MCDONNELL JOHN T.   ARMY

20-Jun-66   MCDONOUGH JOHN R.   USN

16-Aug-68   MCELHANON MICHAEL O.   USAF

18-Dec-72   MCELVAIN JAMES R.   USAF

22-Oct-65   MCEWEN JAMES ARTHUR   USAF

17-Apr-67   MCGARVEY JAMES M.   USMC

10-Dec-71   MCINTIRE SCOTT W.   USAF

24-Nov-70   MCINTOSH IAN   ARMY

04-Nov-70   MCKAY CLYDE W.   CIV   Escaped custody to join VC

06-Feb-68   MCKAY HOMER E.   USN

31-Mar-65   MCKINLEY GERALD W.   USN   Reported crashed on target site

18-Jun-67   MCKITTRICK JAMES C.   ARMY

18-Jun-70   MCLAMB HARRY LAWRENCE   USAF

20-Dec-72   MCLAUGHLIN ARTHUR V. JR.   USAF

07-Jul-67   MCLAUGHLIN OLEN B.   USAF

09-Feb-65   MCLEAN JAMES H.   ARMY   Capture confirmed

14-Jun-73   MCLEOD DAVID V. JR.   USAF

05-Jun-68   MCMANUS TRUMAN JOSEPH   USMC

07-Apr-68   MCMURRAY FRED H. JR.   ARMY

05-FEB-68   MCNEILL CLARENCE L.   USAF   Not on Official DIA list

30-Apr-67   MCPHEE RANDY NEAL   USMC

18-Mar-66   MCPHERSON EVERETT A.   USMC

28-Jan-66   MCPHERSON FRED LAWER   USAF

02-Mar-70   MCVEY LAVOY D.   USMC

13-Aug-65   MELLOR FREDRIC M.  USAF

18-Jan-64   METOYER BRYFORD G.   ARMY

21-Jun-71   METZLER CHARLES D.   USN

09-Feb-69   MEYERS ROGER A.   USN

10-Aug-69   MICKELSEN WILLIAM E. JR.   USN

25-Nov-67   MIDGETT DEWEY A.   ARMY   On way to beach (AWOL)

23-Aug-67   MIDNIGHT FRANCIS B.   USAF   (Photo)

29-Apr-75   MIELKE MADELINE XUAN   CIV   Left Saigon 08/76

29-Apr-75   MIELKE RICHARD M.   CIV   Left Saigon 08/76

29-Apr-75   MIELNE MISTY S.   CIV   Left Saigon 08/76

29-Apr-75   MIKYO MAI LAN   CIV   Left Saigon 08/76

20-Aug-66   MILIKIN RICHARD M.III   USAF

27-Feb-68   MILIUS PAUL L.   USN

05-Sep-67   MILLER CARL D.   USAF

06-Jan-71   MILLER CARLTON P. JR.   USN

12-Mar-75   MILLER GEORGE C.   CIV   Air Vietnam

10-May-68   MILLER GLENN E.   ARMY   Remains ID announced 08/10/2005 – disputed/rejected by family.

12-Mar-75   MILLER JOHN D.   CIV   Released from Hanoi 10/75

12-Mar-75   MILLER LUANNE   CIV   Released from Hanoi 10/75

28-Mar-69   MILLER MICHAEL A.   USAF

22-Nov-65   MILLER RICHARD A.   USMC

28-Aug-68   MILLER ROBERT CHARLES   USAF

07-Mar-67   MILLER ROBERT L.   USN

13-Sep-70   MILLER WYATT JR.   ARMY

06-Mar-71   MILLINER WILLIAM P.   ARMY   (Photo)

29-Nov-67   MILLNER MICHAEL   ARMY

21-Sep-66   MILLS JAMES B.   USN

29-Jan-68   MILLS JAMES DALE   USMC

20-Dec-65   MIMS GEORGE I. JR.   USAF

09-Dec-68   MINOR CARROLL WILLIAM   USN

17-Jan-71   MIRRER ROBERT H.   USAF

19-Oct-66   MISHUK RICHARD E.   USMC

25-Apr-68   MITCHELL ALBERT C.   USAF

30-May-62   MITCHELL ARCHIE E.   CIV   Taken from Leprosarium

12-Mar-75   MITCHELL BETTY J.   CIV   Released from Hanoi 10/75

14-Jan-64   MITCHELL CARL BERG   USAF

06-Mar-68   MITCHELL GILBERT L.   USN

05-May-68   MITCHELL HARRY E.   USN   Reported seen in USA 09/79

29-Jan-71   MIXTER DAVID I.   ARMY

31-Jan-67   MIYAZAKI RONALD K.   USAF

26-Sep-67   MOE HAROLD JOHN   USMC

24-May-69   MONTEZ ANASTACIO   ARMY

02-Oct-69   MONTGOMERY RONALD W.   USN

22-Apr-61   MOON WALTER H.   ARMY   Reported KIA 07/22/61 in escape attempt

27-Feb-71   MOONEY FRED   ARMY

03-Sep-67   MOORE HERBERT W. JR.   USAF

28-Feb-67   MOORE JAMES RODNEY   USMC

16-Feb-69   MOORE JERRY L.   ARMY

03-May-67   MOORE RALPH E.   ARMY

09-Oct-69   MOORE RAYMOND G.   ARMY

20-Feb-70   MOORE SCOTT FERRIS JR.   USN

18-May-66   MOORE WILLIAM J.   USAF

02-Oct-69   MOORE WILLIAM R.   USN

06-Dec-68   MORALES FRANK A.   CIV   JCRC says KIA/DIC

07-Aug-66   MORAN RICHARD ALLAN   USN

16-Jan-68   MORELAND WILLIAM D.   USMC

10-Nov-67   MORGAN JAMES S.   USAF

25-Feb-72   MORGAN WILLIAM J.   ARMY

22-Mar-71   MORIARTY PETER G.   USAF

20-Dec-68   MORIN RICHARD GIRARD   USMC

27-Jan-73   MORRIS GEORGE W. JR.   USAF

26-Oct-66   MORRISON GLENN RAYMOND JR   USAF

19-Aug-69   MORRISSEY RICHARD THOMAS   USMC

07-Nov-72   MORRISSEY ROBERT D.   USAF

29-May-72   MORROW LARRY K.   ARMY

26-Sep-66   MOSBURG HENRY L.   ARMY

02-Oct-69   MOSER PAUL K.   USN

29-Apr-75   MOSLEY MONIQUE C.   CIV

29-Apr-75   MOSS JAMES   CIV

13-Sep-65   MOSSMAN JOE R.   USN

26-Mar-68   MOWREY GLENN W.   USMC

14-Dec-66   MOWREY RICHARD L.   USN

31-Jan-67   MULHAUSER HARVEY   USAF

29-Jan-68   MULLEAVEY QUINTEN EMILE   ARMY   Not on Official DIA list

29-Apr-66   MULLEN WILLIAM F.   USMC

08-May-69   MUNDT HENRY G.   USAF

13-May-69   MUNOZ DAVID L.   ARMY   Reported possibly thrown into well

03-Apr-72   MUREN THOMAS RICHARD   USN

18-Mar-69   MURPHY BARRY D.   ARMY

23-Apr-70   MURPHY LARRON D.   ARMY

09-Apr-65   MURPHY TERENCE M.   USN   Reported crashed at sea

18-Feb-66   MURRAY JOSEPH VAUGHN   USN

28-Sep-67   MUSETTI JOSEPH T. JR.   USN

08-Jun-67   MYERS DAVID GEPHART   USMC   Reported died near Hill 881S

Photo courtesy: www.telegraph.co.uk

POWs, MIAs, “We Will Never Forget”


November 9, 2000, the United States Congress enacted a new immigration policy known as the “Bring Them Home Alive Act”. This legislation was aimed at individuals who were  Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, North Korea and Chinese nationals, as well as anyone from a former independent Soviet state. The bill granted asylum and refugee status for any of these people who returned to the United States any U.S. prisoner of war or serviceman who was missing in action. Refugee and asylum status would also be given to their spouse and any children.

This bill also authorized an international radio and television broadcast designed to inform people in foreign countries of this program. Worldwide coverage would transmit the message to Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, China, North Korea and Russia. This program would receive twenty hours of airtime over a thirty day period. A website was designed with international access with information readily available.

Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee was so moved by the sentiment of this bill, she said this when she placed her “yea” vote: “This bill creates an extraordinary opportunity for nationals of Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, China and the independent states of the former Soviet Union to do a wonderful thing and be richly rewarded for it… I am deeply moved when I think of the grief that is being endured by so many Americans, the Americans who are living with the uncertainty of having family members who were missing in action or prisoners… I feel very strongly that the bill is worthwhile even if it only brings one solder home to his family after all of these years.”

Although there is still debate over just how many are still unaccounted for, as far as the gringa’s concerned, a human being is a human being, not a number. The gringa stands with Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee, if even one, single, solitary soldier is still unaccounted for, he matters. Whether alive or dead, he belongs in his homeland.

The folks at the POW Network, www.pownetwork.org, will never forget. They maintain a database regarding all American POW’s and MIA’s during the Vietnam and Korean War eras. The ones who returned alive or whose remains were returned to the United States are updated. Disputed identity claims are noted. But still, considering the ones who have returned or been identified, the list of the ones who remain lost to us is daunting.

As late as January, 2015, remains were still being identified. Some claims of servicemen who are considered killed in action are disputed because their remains were never actually found. The determination was found because the remains of the rest of the crew were discovered and identified. There are also those that were lost at sea. Some POWs and MIAs are even civilians. Some POWs that are considered deceased have only been identified by photographs which has also caused some disagreement over whether family members actually believe it to be their loved one.

As the gringa explored the website, clicked on random names and discovered the information connected with that name, these names came alive for me. I cannot write about “never forgetting” and yet not mention their names. The names are too numerous to list in one blog post. Even by selecting only the ones who are still unaccounted for, the gringa is still left with an enormous task too big for one post. I don’t know at this time how many posts it will take, but consecutive posts will continue the list of names until I reach the very last name on the list. To the gringa, this seems the only respectful thing to do.

As the dear reader explores the list, if you click on an item, whether name, date, military branch or side notes, it is a link that will take you directly to a data page for that particular POW. The gringa thanks you in advance for your patience as I continue to list these names for the next week or so, maybe longer, however long it takes.

Incident          Name                                             Branch        Notes

07-Mar-73     ACKLEY JAMES W.                          CIV

22-Aug-68     ACOSTA-ROSARIO HUMBERTO   ARMY

08-Nov-67     ADAMS JOHN R.                               ARMY

17-Jun-66      ADAMS OLEY N.                              USAF

31-Oct-65      ADAMS SAMUEL                             USAF    On PRG Died in Capitivy 

18-Oct-66      ADAMS STEVEN H.                         USAF

02-Feb-68     ADKINS CHARLES L.                      ARMY

12-Mar-67    ADRIAN JOSEPH D.                         USAF

01-Nov-69    ADVENTIO RUDOLPHO A.              USN

12-May-67   AGOSTO SANTOS JOSE                 USMC

31-May-66   ALBERTSON BOBBY J.                  USAF

13-Dec-68    ALBRIGHT JOHN S. II                    USAF    (Photo)

29-Jun-70     ALDERN DONALD D.                    USN

04-Nov-69   ALFORD TERRY L.                        ARMY   Remains of crew recovered

11-Dec-66   ALFRED GERALD O. JR.               USAF     (Photo)

04-Mar-71   ALGAARD HAROLD L.                  ARMY

24-Aug-67   ALLARD RICHARD M.                   ARMY

26-Mar-70   ALLEN HENRY L.                           USAF

26-Mar-68   ALLGOOD FRANKIE E.                  USMC

12-Aug-66   ALLINSON DAVID J.                      USAF

07-Jun-70   ALLOWAY CLYDE DOUGLAS       USAF

01-Feb-66   ALM RICHARD A.                           USMC

12-Jul-67    ALMENDARIZ SAMUEL                ARMY

08-Oct-69   ALTIZER ALBERT H.                      ARMY

23-Nov-71   ALTUS ROBERT W.                       USAF

27-Feb-67    ALWAN HAROLD J.                      USMC

28-Jan-70    ANDERSON GREGORY L.             USAF

06-Oct-62   ANDERSON THOMAS EDWARD    USMC

26-Apr-66  ANDERSON WARREN L.                 USAF

04-Mar-66  ANDREWS STUART M                    USAF   Buried without remains in 1978. Military ID found 2006.

12-Dec-63 ANGELL MARSHALL J.                   ARMY

18-Oct-66  ANGSTADT RALPH HAROLD         USAF

11-Sep-67  ANSPACH ROBERT A.                    ARMY

24-Jul-71   ANTUNANO GREGORY A.               ARMY

08-Jun-67  APODACA VICTOR J.                      USAF  (Photo) I.D. DISPUTED 06/2001

16-Oct-67   APPELHANS RICHARD D.               USAF

17-Mar-69   ARMISTEAD STEVEN R.                  USMC

18-Jun-65   ARMOND ROBERT L.                      USAF

06-Oct-67   ARMSTRONG FRANK A. III            USAF

09-Nov-67   ARMSTRONG JOHN W.                   USAF

18-Nov-66   ARNOLD WILLIAM T.                       USN

06-APR-70   ARPIN CLAUDE                                CIV     Not on Official DIA Lists

29-Aug-68    ASHALL ALAN F.                            USN

19-Jan-67     ASHBY DONALD R. SR.                  USN

12-May-67    ASHLOCK CARLOS                         USMC

05-Feb-66    ASMUSSEN GLENN EDWARD         USN

18-Jul-71     ASTON JAY S.                                   ARMY

02-Dec-65    AUSTIN CARL BENJAMIN                USN

26-Apr-67    AUSTIN CHARLES D.                        USAF

21-Apr-66    AUSTIN ELLIS E.                               USN

19-Mar-67    AUSTIN JOSEPH C.                          USAF

29-Jul-68     AUXIER JERRY E.                             ARMY

03-May-68   AVERY ROBERT DOUGLAS           USMC

07-Jul-67     AVOLESE PAUL A.                           USAF

18-Jul-65     AVORE MALCOLM A.                      USN

19-Mar-70    AYERS DARRELL EUGENE           USMC

16-Apr-70    AYERS RICHARD L.                         USAF

Photo credit:  http://blog.daum.net/